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Should the name of a song be in this format: Song Name - Singer's Name - Author's Name? The reason I propose this format is that 100% of the time you know the song name, may be 80% of the time you know the singer's name, and may be 50% of the time you know the author's name. Therefore, you should go with the most popular first and the least popular last. By naming the song name first, it is easier to find in alphabetical order in Windows Explorer the song name to edit. The way it is named now, it is not easy to find a song name in Window Explorer. For example, I try to find "Diem Xua" in a thousand songs in Windows Explorer but I do not know how to find it; some files have "unknown", some files have "Trinh Cong Son", etc. , and then I do not know next on who sang that song (whether the file include a singer's name or "unknown")
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nganngo wrote:Should the name of a song be in this format: Song Name - Singer's Name - Author's Name? The reason I propose this format is that 100% of the time you know the song name, may be 80% of the time you know the singer's name, and may be 50% of the time you know the author's name. Therefore, you should go with the most popular first and the least popular last. By naming the song name first, it is easier to find in alphabetical order in Windows Explorer the song name to edit. The way it is named now, it is not easy to find a song name in Window Explorer. For example, I try to find "Diem Xua" in a thousand songs in Windows Explorer but I do not know how to find it; some files have "unknown", some files have "Trinh Cong Son", etc. , and then I do not know next on who sang that song (whether the file include a singer's name or "unknown") You should have the rely on the first letter of your file name to do the search. Use the Windows Explorer search functionality (Ctrl+F). Windows Vista makes it even easier to search on your files.
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vcdz382 wrote:nganngo wrote:Should the name of a song be in this format: Song Name - Singer's Name - Author's Name? The reason I propose this format is that 100% of the time you know the song name, may be 80% of the time you know the singer's name, and may be 50% of the time you know the author's name. Therefore, you should go with the most popular first and the least popular last. By naming the song name first, it is easier to find in alphabetical order in Windows Explorer the song name to edit. The way it is named now, it is not easy to find a song name in Window Explorer. For example, I try to find "Diem Xua" in a thousand songs in Windows Explorer but I do not know how to find it; some files have "unknown", some files have "Trinh Cong Son", etc. , and then I do not know next on who sang that song (whether the file include a singer's name or "unknown") You should have the rely on the first letter of your file name to do the search. Use the Windows Explorer search functionality (Ctrl+F). Windows Vista makes it even easier to search on your files. I still find it is inconvenient because it requires multiple processes: first hit (Ctrl+F), then choose "All Files and Folders", then enter all or part of the file name, and then wait for Windows Explorer to search. If you want to edit one or two files then it would be OK. If you want to edit thousands songs then this process take a long time. If you go with my proposed format, then it will take less than a second to go anywhere in that folder. If you want to look at the file name start with "Diem", then highlight any file name, type fast and it will go to that file name, if you want to go to a file name start with "Tu", then type fast "tu" and it will jump there. My problem right now is trying to combine the collections of my friend and mine. We have a lot of duplicate files and because we named the files lightly different, therefore it is not easy to find the duplicate files. I wish we could start to name the files in my proposed format so that songs that have the same name can be close to each other, it would be easier to detect duplicate files. I and my friend start to go with this format and it does work good with Tkaraoke: song name (singer name 16x9).VOB. 16x9 is included to let us know that the video is in 16x9 format. We do not include author name. With this format I can use the files with Mediagate MG-35 player and any stand alone player on the market.
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nganngo wrote:I still find it is inconvenient because it requires multiple processes: first hit (Ctrl+F), then choose "All Files and Folders", then enter all or part of the file name, and then wait for Windows Explorer to search. If you want to edit one or two files then it would be OK. If you want to edit thousands songs then this process take a long time. If you go with my proposed format, then it will take less than a second to go anywhere in that folder. If you want to look at the file name start with "Diem", then highlight any file name, type fast and it will go to that file name, if you want to go to a file name start with "Tu", then type fast "tu" and it will jump there. My problem right now is trying to combine the collections of my friend and mine. We have a lot of duplicate files and because we named the files lightly different, therefore it is not easy to find the duplicate files. I wish we could start to name the files in my proposed format so that songs that have the same name can be close to each other, it would be easier to detect duplicate files. I and my friend start to go with this format and it does work good with Tkaraoke: song name (singer name 16x9).VOB. 16x9 is included to let us know that the video is in 16x9 format. We do not include author name. With this format I can use the files with Mediagate MG-35 player and any stand alone player on the market. There are too many songs out there renamed for TKaraoke so if we change the format, it will require renaming to these files. The argument goes both ways. With the current renaming, you can group DVDs together easily by sorting by file name since the name of the Author (or DVD name) goes first in the file. I suggest you use Vista to overcome your searching problems. Vista provides instant search.
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There are too many songs out there renamed for TKaraoke so if we change the format, it will require renaming to these files. The argument goes both ways. With the current renaming, you can group DVDs together easily by sorting by file name since the name of the Author (or DVD name) goes first in the file. I suggest you use Vista to overcome your searching problems. Vista provides instant search.
To me, you created your own problem. If someone uses the DVD name to substitute for the author's name, that means the author's name is not important and they do not follow your rule. If someone comes to my house and want to sing a song, then they ask for a song name that they found in the song catalog, they do not care where the song came from which DVD or the author's name. I do not say that you have to rename all of the songs out there for Tkaraoke but you can reprogram Tkaraoke to allow people to define the field name the way they want. This is a feature requested by me. You also have to understand that a lot of people had vob files to use with other players long before Tkaraoke was available so they might not want to rename their collection to use with Tkaraoke only. The name that is use in Tkaraoke might not be compatible with other players.
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nganngo wrote:Quote:
There are too many songs out there renamed for TKaraoke so if we change the format, it will require renaming to these files. The argument goes both ways. With the current renaming, you can group DVDs together easily by sorting by file name since the name of the Author (or DVD name) goes first in the file. I suggest you use Vista to overcome your searching problems. Vista provides instant search.
To me, you created your own problem. If someone uses the DVD name to substitute for the author's name, that means the author's name is not important and they do not follow your rule. If someone comes to my house and want to sing a song, then they ask for a song name that they found in the song catalog, they do not care where the song came from which DVD or the author's name. I do not say that you have to rename all of the songs out there for Tkaraoke but you can reprogram Tkaraoke to allow people to define the field name the way they want. This is a feature requested by me. You also have to understand that a lot of people had vob files to use with other players long before Tkaraoke was available so they might not want to rename their collection to use with Tkaraoke only. The name that is use in Tkaraoke might not be compatible with other players. Hehehe, I wonder if you have ever tried out Tkaraoke  You wouldn't need a song catalog at all. It would be on-screen live list of your collection. All you have to do is "Cursor down to whatever you want" ... song name, artist, Album, or even lyric.  To make it short: Your request is just a "personal preference" ... not very usefully for other users. You might look into the Pro version of Tkaraoke -- Of course, It'll cost you a few hundred bucks (to get Pro-Tkaraoke version).  May I ask you to list "other players" that you mentioned above?
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newbie_y2k wrote:nganngo wrote:Quote:
There are too many songs out there renamed for TKaraoke so if we change the format, it will require renaming to these files. The argument goes both ways. With the current renaming, you can group DVDs together easily by sorting by file name since the name of the Author (or DVD name) goes first in the file. I suggest you use Vista to overcome your searching problems. Vista provides instant search.
To me, you created your own problem. If someone uses the DVD name to substitute for the author's name, that means the author's name is not important and they do not follow your rule. If someone comes to my house and want to sing a song, then they ask for a song name that they found in the song catalog, they do not care where the song came from which DVD or the author's name. I do not say that you have to rename all of the songs out there for Tkaraoke but you can reprogram Tkaraoke to allow people to define the field name the way they want. This is a feature requested by me. You also have to understand that a lot of people had vob files to use with other players long before Tkaraoke was available so they might not want to rename their collection to use with Tkaraoke only. The name that is use in Tkaraoke might not be compatible with other players. Hehehe, I wonder if you have ever tried out Tkaraoke You wouldn't need a song catalog at all. It would be on-screen live list of your collection. All you have to do is "Cursor down to whatever you want" ... song name, artist, Album, or even lyric. To make it short: Your request is just a "personal preference" ... not very usefully for other users. You might look into the Pro version of Tkaraoke -- Of course, It'll cost you a few hundred bucks (to get Pro-Tkaraoke version). May I ask you to list "other players" that you mentioned above? Yes I do try out Tkaraoke and like it very much. Thanks to the people that wrote this program. The reason I need to provide the song catalog is for people came to my house and had no idea what songs I have in the computer hard drive (I have over 4000 VOB songs in one 1TB hard drive). I used Mediagate MG-350HD to play karaoke before I knew Tkaraoke. We have a group of about 10 people that sang karaoke every weekend at different houses. Not everyone use Tkaraoke; some have Mediagate MG-35, VIV systems M-player, AIVX player, etc.... You can buy these stand alone players on Ebay or go to the website below: http://www.amazon.com/MG-350HD-Wireless-802-11G-Player-Mediagate/dp/B000IANW52http://www.vivsys.com/product.php?p_id=2&c_id=78
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nganngo wrote:newbie_y2k wrote:nganngo wrote:Quote:
There are too many songs out there renamed for TKaraoke so if we change the format, it will require renaming to these files. The argument goes both ways. With the current renaming, you can group DVDs together easily by sorting by file name since the name of the Author (or DVD name) goes first in the file. I suggest you use Vista to overcome your searching problems. Vista provides instant search.
To me, you created your own problem. If someone uses the DVD name to substitute for the author's name, that means the author's name is not important and they do not follow your rule. If someone comes to my house and want to sing a song, then they ask for a song name that they found in the song catalog, they do not care where the song came from which DVD or the author's name. I do not say that you have to rename all of the songs out there for Tkaraoke but you can reprogram Tkaraoke to allow people to define the field name the way they want. This is a feature requested by me. You also have to understand that a lot of people had vob files to use with other players long before Tkaraoke was available so they might not want to rename their collection to use with Tkaraoke only. The name that is use in Tkaraoke might not be compatible with other players. Hehehe, I wonder if you have ever tried out Tkaraoke You wouldn't need a song catalog at all. It would be on-screen live list of your collection. All you have to do is "Cursor down to whatever you want" ... song name, artist, Album, or even lyric. To make it short: Your request is just a "personal preference" ... not very usefully for other users. You might look into the Pro version of Tkaraoke -- Of course, It'll cost you a few hundred bucks (to get Pro-Tkaraoke version). May I ask you to list "other players" that you mentioned above? Yes I do try out Tkaraoke and like it very much. Thanks to the people that wrote this program. The reason I need to provide the song catalog is for people came to my house and had no idea what songs I have in the computer hard drive (I have over 4000 VOB songs in one 1TB hard drive). I used Mediagate MG-350HD to play karaoke before I knew Tkaraoke. We have a group of about 10 people that sang karaoke every weekend at different houses. Not everyone use Tkaraoke; some have Mediagate MG-35, VIV systems M-player, AIVX player, etc.... You can buy these stand alone players on Ebay or go to the website below: http://www.amazon.com/MG-350HD-Wireless-802-11G-Player-Mediagate/dp/B000IANW52http://www.vivsys.com/product.php?p_id=2&c_id=78 I would stay with TKaraoke because I already had existing HTPC. This sofftware is what I'm looking for since 2004. If TKaraoke Pro is afffordable, I would buy a copy for non-commercial use. I also have a group of friends who are karaokeing very often. If you're near Dallas, we'll invite you to our party
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I totally agree with nganngo.
His request is identical to mine in my thread 'Request new version to have an .ini file to provide structure of the songname'
With this flexible filenaming feature, you can share your song your way and let other people pick the song their way.
In additon, I am just thinking that if TKaraoke can pick the songname in the structure provided by an .ini file, the program can manipulate the song name at ease.
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I would save the cover of my dvd collection and the people
would just use it to find the songs they want. And I say to people,
if you can think of a song, I might have it. Over all TKaraoke is very
convienient and it ít is fast to find a song. It would be much better if
the dual screen can be achieved because someone can spend all the time
on one monitor looking for a song they want to sing and not bothered by
the one who's singing on a different screen. I am thinking touch screen
technology if the dual screen is available. All the songs can be found with
the tip of your finger.
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tongvo wrote:I would save the cover of my dvd collection and the people
would just use it to find the songs they want. And I say to people,
if you can think of a song, I might have it. Over all TKaraoke is very
convienient and it ít is fast to find a song. It would be much better if
the dual screen can be achieved because someone can spend all the time
on one monitor looking for a song they want to sing and not bothered by
the one who's singing on a different screen. I am thinking touch screen
technology if the dual screen is available. All the songs can be found with
the tip of your finger.
Try this approach and let us know if you still want the dual-screen approach. The approach we are using is print out the Song Catalog and make a few copies. Give each of your guest a copy. The Song Catalog looks like this. To select a song, the guest enter its 4-digit number via the Remote Control. This can be done easily without interrupting the guest currently singing.
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Yes, but if you want a paperless world and go GREEN. I'd say the dual screen is a much preferred option.
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And I think we still want to see the playlist without distracting the singer.
Besides, with this approach, the song catalog has to be reprinted in many copies everytime you add songs.
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ThanhLoan wrote:And I think we still want to see the playlist without distracting the singer.
Besides, with this approach, the song catalog has to be reprinted in many copies everytime you add songs. By the way, you can see the playlist without distrating the singer right now (press ESCAPE). It's just that the video size get smaller to accommodate the play list. You can then resize the video window to be larger if you want (drag the border to the left). Are you aware of this feature? Also, there is a way so that when you add new songs, your old song catalog will work. It just doesn't have the song numbers for the newly added songs. It seems like a lot of people are asking for the 2-screen feature. We will make that a priority but wanted to make sure everyone knows that features already exist in TKaraoke right now.
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Thank you vcdz382 for your final conclusion making dual monitor a priority for next version.
BTW, do you have a release date for the next version ?
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ThanhLoan wrote:Thank you vcdz382 for your final conclusion making dual monitor a priority for next version.
BTW, do you have a release date for the next version ? We are currently working on the architectural change to TKaraoke to support the requested features that are hard to implement with the current architecture. In the next week or so, we should have the new version out but it really doesn't add anything new - just the architecture change. We will release it under Engineering Build so that advanced TKaraoke user can help us test this new version. The dual screen feature will probably get implemented next after the architecture change.
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I can volunteer to test the next version if you will.
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ThanhLoan wrote:I can volunteer to test the next version if you will. Sure, we will be more than happen to have more people test our beta version. Thanks for the offer.
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