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vcdz382
Posted: Friday, August 08, 2008 9:24:42 AM

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Kelvin wrote:
Dear TKaraoke. I was so glad to find your software it is wonderful and i have been search for this for a long time.
However, there is one thing that i still don't understand which is the Song Numbers.
Is Tkaraoke assigned the song # automatically or User assigns song #? I don't see any option to do that. If Tkaraoke assign song #s then i find it will be a problem with the song in the play list and the song in the Song Book print out. they will not match if additional songs being added to the player. is this mean i have to Reprint my SongBook all over again even though i only add 1 more new song to the player?
Please advice.
vcdz382
Posted: Monday, August 11, 2008 10:52:00 AM

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Kelvin wrote:
Dear TKaraoke. I was so glad to find your software it is wonderful and i have been search for this for a long time.
However, there is one thing that i still don't understand which is the Song Numbers.
Is Tkaraoke assigned the song # automatically or User assigns song #? I don't see any option to do that. If Tkaraoke assign song #s then i find it will be a problem with the song in the play list and the song in the Song Book print out. they will not match if additional songs being added to the player. is this mean i have to Reprint my SongBook all over again even though i only add 1 more new song to the player?
Please advice.

TKaraoke assigns the song number automatically. To generate the song catalog, load in all your songs (File-->Add Songs) and then click on Tools-->Generate Song Catalog. TKaraoke will ask to save a text file. This text file can be converted into a song catalog pdf like the one on http://www.tkaraoke.com/DL_Items/SampleSongCatalog2.pdf . To convert into this nicely formatted pdf, open the saved text file and copy all its content. Next, open Word 2007 and paste in the content. Then select all text in Word and insert a Table. Add your own formatting and then print.

If you are not careful, adding a new song will mess up your song catalog numberings. To avoid this, always name the folder of your songs using its creation date (yyyymmdd). For example:
Code:
C:\Karaoke Songs\20080123\...
C::Karaoke Songs\20080214\...

New songs should be added to
Code:
C:\Karaoke Songs\20080323\...


Since TKaraoke will process all song folders in alphabetical order, using the above scheme, new songs will get higher number and will not affect the existing songs' numbers.
kdoweb
Posted: Sunday, October 05, 2008 6:17:23 PM
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vcdz382 wrote:
Kelvin wrote:
Dear TKaraoke. I was so glad to find your software it is wonderful and i have been search for this for a long time.
However, there is one thing that i still don't understand which is the Song Numbers.
Is Tkaraoke assigned the song # automatically or User assigns song #? I don't see any option to do that. If Tkaraoke assign song #s then i find it will be a problem with the song in the play list and the song in the Song Book print out. they will not match if additional songs being added to the player. is this mean i have to Reprint my SongBook all over again even though i only add 1 more new song to the player?
Please advice.

TKaraoke assigns the song number automatically. To generate the song catalog, load in all your songs (File-->Add Songs) and then click on Tools-->Generate Song Catalog. TKaraoke will ask to save a text file. This text file can be converted into a song catalog pdf like the one on http://www.tkaraoke.com/DL_Items/SampleSongCatalog2.pdf. To convert into this nicely formatted pdf, open the saved text file and copy all its content. Next, open Word 2007 and paste in the content. Then select all text in Word and insert a Table. Add your own formatting and then print.

If you are not careful, adding a new song will mess up your song catalog numberings. To avoid this, always name the folder of your songs using its creation date (yyyymmdd). For example:
Code:
C:\Karaoke Songs\20080123\...
C::Karaoke Songs\20080214\...

New songs should be added to
Code:
C:\Karaoke Songs\200803\23\...


Since TKaraoke will process all song folders in alphabetical order, using the above scheme, new songs will get higher number and will not affect the existing songs' numbers.


Hi vcdz382

I'm having some problem with exporting song list, all my export shows up as 2 line. example below:
0001 Đón Xuân (Như Quỳnh) Xuân về đây, muôn ngàn hoa thắm tươi
X...
0002 Nữa Đêm Ngoài Phố (Thanh Thúy) Buồn vào hồn không tên,
Thức giấc nửa ...

so when I insert table those 2 songs show up as 4 rows for the 2 songs.

May I suggest you do your export as an excel or csv file. Because if the first column is the song number you can sort the second column which is the song name to be alphabetically and print out a new list. or chose not to sort and just append and print out just the newly added songs. I don't mind printing out a new catalog for all my song to be alphabetically set. I think this way we all have the flexibility to keep only the the column we want ie. song number and song name or song number song name and production.

kdoweb
vcdz382
Posted: Sunday, October 05, 2008 10:17:30 PM

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kdoweb wrote:

Hi vcdz382

I'm having some problem with exporting song list, all my export shows up as 2 line. example below:
0001 Đón Xuân (Như Quỳnh) Xuân về đây, muôn ngàn hoa thắm tươi
X...
0002 Nữa Đêm Ngoài Phố (Thanh Thúy) Buồn vào hồn không tên,
Thức giấc nửa ...

so when I insert table those 2 songs show up as 4 rows for the 2 songs.

May I suggest you do your export as an excel or csv file. Because if the first column is the song number you can sort the second column which is the song name to be alphabetically and print out a new list. or chose not to sort and just append and print out just the newly added songs. I don't mind printing out a new catalog for all my song to be alphabetically set. I think this way we all have the flexibility to keep only the the column we want ie. song number and song name or song number song name and production.

kdoweb

It shouldn't show up as 2 lines. This was a bug. Version 1.1.054 should fix it. Without this bug, you should be able to "Insert Table" and Word should format it nicely - one row per song. Once it's in a table, you can cut columns, sort by any column, etc. like in Excel.
kdoweb
Posted: Monday, October 06, 2008 12:18:43 AM
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vcdz382 wrote:
kdoweb wrote:

Hi vcdz382

I'm having some problem with exporting song list, all my export shows up as 2 line. example below:
0001 Đón Xuân (Như Quỳnh) Xuân về đây, muôn ngàn hoa thắm tươi
X...
0002 Nữa Đêm Ngoài Phố (Thanh Thúy) Buồn vào hồn không tên,
Thức giấc nửa ...

so when I insert table those 2 songs show up as 4 rows for the 2 songs.

May I suggest you do your export as an excel or csv file. Because if the first column is the song number you can sort the second column which is the song name to be alphabetically and print out a new list. or chose not to sort and just append and print out just the newly added songs. I don't mind printing out a new catalog for all my song to be alphabetically set. I think this way we all have the flexibility to keep only the the column we want ie. song number and song name or song number song name and production.

kdoweb

It shouldn't show up as 2 lines. This was a bug. Version 1.1.054 should fix it. Without this bug, you should be able to "Insert Table" and Word should format it nicely - one row per song. Once it's in a table, you can cut columns, sort by any column, etc. like in Excel.


Nice, I'll give it a run now. Any word on .9x support yet?


Thanks
kdoweb
vcdz382
Posted: Monday, October 06, 2008 11:14:14 AM

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kdoweb wrote:

Nice, I'll give it a run now. Any word on .9x support yet?

Thanks
kdoweb

It will be a while until VLC has a stable release of 0.9x.
kdoweb
Posted: Monday, October 06, 2008 5:19:20 PM
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vcdz382 wrote:
kdoweb wrote:

Nice, I'll give it a run now. Any word on .9x support yet?

Thanks
kdoweb

It will be a while until VLC has a stable release of 0.9x.


I thought VLC .92 is a full stable release. If you goto there site .86 is no longer the current stable version right?

kdoweb
vcdz382
Posted: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 10:31:13 PM

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kdoweb wrote:

I thought VLC .92 is a full stable release. If you goto there site .86 is no longer the current stable version right?

kdoweb

Not stable enough for TKaraoke. We will not risk TKaraoke crashing more often to support 0.9x. Right now, we haven't seen any normal case where TKaraoke crashes. We wanted to keep this high standard.
kdoweb
Posted: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 10:59:35 PM
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vcdz382 wrote:
kdoweb wrote:

I thought VLC .92 is a full stable release. If you goto there site .86 is no longer the current stable version right?

kdoweb

Not stable enough for TKaraoke. We will not risk TKaraoke crashing more often to support 0.9x. Right now, we haven't seen any normal case where TKaraoke crashes. We wanted to keep this high standard.


Got it, I'll keep checking. And thanks for the 1.1.054 it fix the catalog export for me.

thanks
kdoweb
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