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vcdz382
Posted: Thursday, August 13, 2009 3:31:00 PM

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As you might have known, TKaraoke can play directly from VIDEO_TS folder on hard drive or from a mounted ISO file. However, the song same will be "x, Bài Số 01", "x, Bài Số 02, v.v. where x is the folder name or the drive letter. With this, the lyric of the song will not be available as our database needs to know the song name to provide the lyric. To improve this, we are looking to provide the actual song name instead of "x, Bài Số y".

I don't usually load songs from from VIDEO_TS folder so your ideas will be helpful here. We are looking for your idea on how to implement this feature to provide a flexible way to provide the song name and possibly the songwriter names as well.
vcdz382
Posted: Thursday, August 13, 2009 3:55:06 PM

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Here is my initial idea:
1. Provide an info file named x.tkdti a the root of the DVD folder (where the VIDEO_TS folder is also located).
2. Name x to be your DVD Name. This data will be used as the Album. For example: "PBNK 62.tkdti". TKDTI stands for TKaraoke DVD Track Info.
3. The x.tkdti file will be a text file that contains the DVD info like listed in this forum. For example:
Code:
.Skip
PBN Karaoke 24_01 - Don Ho - Cafe Dang Tro Lai
PBN Karaoke 24_02 - Thien Kim - Tinh Yeu Muon Thuo
PBN Karaoke 24_03 - Nhu Quynh - Chuyen Di Ve Sang
PBN Karaoke 24_04 - Y Lan - Phoi Pha
PBN Karaoke 24_05 - Nguyen Hung - Doi Toi La Cua Toi
PBN Karaoke 24_06 - Hoang Lan - Chuyen Tinh Hon Buom Mo Tien
PBN Karaoke 24_07 - Ai Van - Mua Dong Biet Ly
PBN Karaoke 24_08 - Bao Ngoc - Thuong Hoai Ngan Nam
PBN Karaoke 24_09 - Truc Linh & Truc Lam - Mot Ngay Cua Anh
PBN Karaoke 24_10 - Elvis Phuong - Trai Tim Khong Ngu Yen
PBN Karaoke 24_11 - Nhu Quynh & Don Ho - Tim Vo
PBN Karaoke 24_12 - Luu Bich - Song Trong Phut Giay
PBN Karaoke 24_13 - Tuan Ngoc - O Noi Nao Em Con Nho
PBN Karaoke 24_14 - The Son - Nguoi Tinh Achiban
PBN Karaoke 24_15 - My Huyen - Tan Thu
PBN Karaoke 24_16 - Don Ho & Nhu Quynh - Chuyen Lua Doi
PBN Karaoke 24_17 - Bao Han - Niem Vui Hon Nhien
PBN Karaoke 24_18 - Bao Ngoc - Hoa Tim Ngay Xua
PBN Karaoke 24_19 - Lynda Trang Dai - Chieu Xuan
PBN Karaoke 24_20 - Hoang Lan - Yeu Lam


In this case, this DVD has 21 tracks. Track 1 should be skipped (copyright info). Track 2 is song Cafe Dang Tro Lai, Track 3 is song Tinh Yeu Muon Thuo, v.v.
vcdz382
Posted: Thursday, August 13, 2009 5:08:18 PM

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TKaraoke version 1.4.0.043 has been released with this feature! Sample tkdti file is on the links below:

Paris by Night Karaoke 24
Paris by Night Karaoke 25
Râu
Posted: Thursday, August 13, 2009 6:13:32 PM
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Hello vcdz382,

I'm exciting to see you support this feature :cool: This way, we can easily share the TKDTI file between those who has taken the advantage of mkv/vob and the new comers - the tKaraoke family can grow... bigger... faster :)

my 1 cent:

1. ".Skip" would work but would it be better to use "--" <<< this inline with your current logic of parsing the text line to pick out the Title/Artist/Song Name
.... Less code change (I hope I'm not wrong :)

2. The flexibility to put this "skipping indicator" on any line by itself => to indicate that track is unwanted in the catalog/index
.... I saw a couple of U Sing Alon's that has unwanted track @ the end... So does The Best of Nguyen Hung with a behind the scene.
.... There can be duplicated songs between DVD's... (say the best of Quang Lê's song are from other PBN's DVD) this give tKaraoke's members a chance to remove dup entry in the catalog --> look much better, like a pro :)

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Don't know if this should be another topic of discussion.

While we are at modifying the TKDTI entry/name... I wonder if we could also extend the song name to some how... indicate to Karaoke the Karaoke's Track number in the song.

For example...
Code:

.Skip
Home Collectio 01_01.1 - Don Ho - Cafe Dang Tro Lai
Home Collectio 01_02.1 - Thien Kim - Tinh Yeu Muon Thuo
Home Collectio 01_03.2 - Nhu Quynh - Chuyen Di Ve Sang
Home Collectio 01_04.1 - Y Lan - Phoi Pha


If there is no "." in the Name, then tKaraoke loads the song as normal
.... No change to the current users
If there is a ".1" or ".2" then tKaraoke load the song with that track as the default.
.... In the future... if tKaraoke has "mode" - either "Karaoke" or "Vocal"... Then tKaraoke can use this to load the audio track accordingly :)

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Really appreciate your share and support of tKaraoke
Thanks
Râu
Posted: Thursday, August 13, 2009 6:16:39 PM
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vcdz382 wrote:
TKaraoke version 1.4.0.043 has been released with this feature! Sample tkdti file is on the links below:

* downloading...
* Will be trying to my collection of Video_TS folder...
* Will report... tonight....

(không thử ... không ngủ á :))
Râu
Posted: Thursday, August 13, 2009 6:47:24 PM
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Report #1.

Try with Phượng Hoàng 02... Using the songlist from forum... (minus those "vob" at the end of each line if exist)

Named as "Phượng Hoàng 02.tkdti", placed in the same folder with "Video_TS" under "PHK 02 - La Thu Do Thi"

Result:

1. Song list: populate... beautifully... all 20 tracks are cataloged correctly.
2. Albun/Đĩa: pick up correctly from the tkdti file name as "Phượng Hoàng 02"
3. NO singer name, though.
4. Side Note: when I select whole group ò consecutive file in the listing (alphabet ordered by song name) and add to the queue
.... it looks like tKaraoke adds to the queue in the revert order: last song in the listing is first in queue???
.... is it.. normal???

I'm going to test more with other folder, especially with the ".skip" but.. I.. LOVE it so far :))

Code:

PH02_01 - Trường Vũ - Lá Vàng Khóc Lá Xanh Rơi
PH02_02 - Phi Nhung - Nổi Buồn Gác Trọ
PH02_03 - Trường Vũ - Lá Thư Đô Thị
PH02_04 - Phi Nhung - Hãy Quen Nhau
PH02_05 - Trường Vũ - Tím Cả Rừng Chiều
PH02_06 - Hạ Vy - Có Lẽ
PH02_07 - Trường Vũ - Nhớ
PH02_08 - Phi Nhung - Lá Thư Xưa
PH02_09 - Trường Vũ - Lưu Bút Ngày Xanh
PH02_10 - Hoài Nam - Sông Quê 1
PH02_11 - Trường Vũ - Về Dưới Mái Nhà
PH02_12 - Phi Nhung - Biển Dâu
PH02_13 - Trường Vũ - Hoa Su Nha Nang 2
PH02_14 - Hoài Nam - Khóc Thầm
PH02_15 - Trường Vũ - Cho Xin Song Lai
PH02_16 - Hạ Vy - Đừng Nhắc Nữa
PH02_17 - Trường Vũ - Tình Yêu Đơn Phương
PH02_18 - Phi Nhung - Kể Chuyện Trong Đêm
PH02_19 - Trường Vũ - Ngõ Hồn Qua Đêm
PH02_20 - Thanh Huyền - Vì Lỡ Thương Nhau
Râu
Posted: Thursday, August 13, 2009 7:43:35 PM
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Report #2

1. Work beautifully with PBNK 52 - Tết Khắp Mọi Nhà... <<< No change to the songlist :houra:
2. Singer names still missing...

Note:

a. Selecting a whole group (sorted by Đĩa/Track) and add to queue - in revert order
.... However... if selection was group from last entry - hold shift key - to first then add to queue ==> will be in the right order :))

b. The code messes up for the (good) vob/mkv listing...
.... It does not display the Đĩa's Info but it display the song name and singer name correctly

========

Is it possible to disable the "Audio Track #1" Message or at least move it off the video screen?

in dual screen display, I'm looking at the tKaraoke Main Window in the Notebook - NOT the big screen...

Flashing this message on the big screen does not help me "the operator" (to toggle the audio track) but may annoy the viewers... (sorry to say this :)
Râu
Posted: Thursday, August 13, 2009 8:06:02 PM
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I forgot to Report...

In this version, for the "Đĩa" Name for Video_TS... it does NOT show the track # as it does in prev version for mkv/vob.

Not important to me but you may want the same "look and feel" for all :))

===

Just test a Tân Cổ - no new finding to report - so far I have not get to one need ".skip" yet. Will do eventually.
I updated some of the listing as I go along.. :)

Need a break/smoke :)
More later.

vcdz382
Posted: Thursday, August 13, 2009 8:15:48 PM

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Thanks Rau for trying this out. No singer info yet. The next version will support more advanced naming (see this post). Basically you specify the tksns file to specify how the listing is named - not just limit to singer/album/songname. You can specify other things like Giộng and Điệu as well (only USAK so far has this more detailed listing).

After the advanced naming, we'll take a look at the default sound track issue. It's gonna be per DVD instead of per track as you suggested since the whole DVD will have the same audio track data (either karaoke @ track 1 or @ track 2 for the entire DVD). Any disc where you see this is not the case?
Râu
Posted: Thursday, August 13, 2009 8:27:42 PM
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vcdz382 wrote:
Thanks Rau for trying this out. No singer info yet. The next version will support more advanced naming (see this post). Basically you specify the tksns file to specify how the listing is named - not just limit to singer/album/songname. You can specify other things like Giộng and Điệu as well (only USAK so far has this more detailed listing).

Thank it's good already.
But I think you need to look at the listing for vob/mkv: make sure it does not break them
And, it does NOT load the lyric preview either

Quote:
After the advanced naming, we'll take a look at the default sound track issue. It's gonna be per DVD instead of per track as you suggested since the whole DVD will have the same audio track data (either karaoke @ track 1 or @ track 2 for the entire DVD). Any disc where you see this is not the case?

Agreed. it's better with per DVD.

I saw per... song because it was a "home/personal collection" (and shared in NG)... collect mainly from diff VN Productions... and yet... there are big issue with the... volume... in these type of DVD

Now that with tKaraoke - consolidating... the need for those DVDs... no longer exists :) :phew: big thanks :)

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Should I continue to report my findings? or wait for the next version?
vcdz382
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Râu wrote:
Thank it's good already.
But I think you need to look at the listing for vob/mkv: make sure it does not break them
And, it does NOT load the lyric preview either

Do you mean this version doesn't work w/ the ripped songs (vob/mkv) anymore?

Quote:
Should I continue to report my findings? or wait for the next version?

Please continue! I'll go over all your findings as I move along.
vcdz382
Posted: Friday, August 14, 2009 11:26:03 AM

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Râu wrote:
Report #2
2. Singer names still missing...

Singer names should now show up in v1.4.0.045. All the other good stuffs (see the custom song name structure post) should show up also. If you don't provide a tksns file, the default structure is "%author% - %singer% - %song%"

Râu wrote:
Note:
a. Selecting a whole group (sorted by Đĩa/Track) and add to queue - in revert order
.... However... if selection was group from last entry - hold shift key - to first then add to queue ==> will be in the right order :))
b. The code messes up for the (good) vob/mkv listing...
.... It does not display the Đĩa's Info but it display the song name and singer name correctly

a. This bug has been fixed in v1.4.0.045.
b. The default naming convention is "author - singer - song" if you don't provide a tksns file to specify your own standard. Hence, the Đĩa data will not show up - the data was placed in the Tác Giả column. This is the expected behavior. To have it show up in the Đĩa column, provide a tksns file named "%album% - %singer% - %song%.tksns" at the root directory. See the above post for more detail about tksks files and their rules.

Râu wrote:

I forgot to Report...

In this version, for the "Đĩa" Name for Video_TS... it does NOT show the track # as it does in prev version for mkv/vob.

Not important to me but you may want the same "look and feel" for all :))

This is fixed in v1.4.0.045 as well :)
Râu
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Oh! man...

Đang tính.. rì bọt bóp lầm....
Bi giờ thì... download new version... làm lại :bravo:

(I'm getting... old... no, I meant... slow! hehehe...)
Râu
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Very.... COOOOOL!!!!
hehehe.... all fixed so far... with ".tksns" of course :)

Will test more and report more... later.

Thanks :beer4u:

==

Forgot to mention:

I have Windows 7 RC
First install of 045... did not help... all issues remained...
I manually uninstalled 043 and installed 045 again then ok.
vcdz382
Posted: Friday, August 14, 2009 2:45:55 PM

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Râu wrote:

Forgot to mention:

I have Windows 7 RC
First install of 045... did not help... all issues remained...
I manually uninstalled 043 and installed 045 again then ok.

TKaraoke cached your songs info if it doesn't detect any changes to the physical files. This might be the cause because the new version was using the cache created by the older version. One quick fix is to clear all the songs and re-add - this will force TKaraoke to flush the cache and parse the song info according to the new version's rules.
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By the way, is TKaraoke stable under Win7 RC? There is one user reporting crashes here and there under Win7 and those crashes went away when using WinXP. I don't recall seeing any crash on Win7 but that was a while back.
Râu
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vcdz382 wrote:
TKaraoke cached your songs info if it doesn't detect any changes to the physical files. This might be the cause because the new version was using the cache created by the older version.

One quick fix is to clear all the songs and re-add - this will force TKaraoke to flush the cache and parse the song info according to the new version's rules.

Did that.. even repair the (first) installation of 045 <<< didn't help.
Thus, uninstall and reinstall.

I would not worry much about this :)
Râu
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vcdz382 wrote:
By the way, is TKaraoke stable under Win7 RC? There is one user reporting crashes here and there under Win7 and those crashes went away when using WinXP. I don't recall seeing any crash on Win7 but that was a while back.

The Windows 7 RC is at my desktop (not on the notebook)
In my usage... mainly for checking and testing... I would say tKaraoke is considerably stable :)
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Speaking of clearing the cache...

1. Is there a way of... "Refesh" the song list so that song/Album naem can be updated but the download lyrics remains?

2. The lyrics DB/List... instead of get online each time to get the lyrics... can it be kept local (at a folder on the hard drive that is known to tKaraoke)
... so that between a "Clear Song" and "Add Song", tKaraoke can re-populate the lyrics must faster?
... I know there is an issue with update - sure we can talk more about it.
Râu
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Rì bọt:

* I think tK has issue with Tình Platinum 13 - Bờ Bến Lạ: tK does not pick up the track list...
* I tried a few clear/add... stop/re-run tK but can't see the the song list in the catalog - other DVD's lists are fine.
* Used SmartRip to look into the DVD structure... all 20 songs are "Chapter" in "Program Chain 2" and in "Angle 1"
.... does this make any diff in the way tK scan for chapter?
.... Program Chain 1/Angel 1 has only one chapter of 49 seconds.

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I noticed that for Video_TS folder that does not have *.tkdti file, this version skip the DVD entirely...
... It will be help full if you give back the old way of... giving "DVD..., Bài Số ##" in the list so that it can be easily identify
... If not, there maybe video_TS folder that user don't even aware that exists in the Hard Drive.
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